Size wise fit was exactly right, and they appear well made. The leg length comes to the center of the knee which suits me. I'm used to having the cargo pocket flaps attached with Velcro for easy access. These cargo flaps have a double layer retained with two buttons with buttonholes in the inner layer hidden from the outside. Access to open the flap is difficult thanks to this design making the cargo pockets user unfriendly bordering on user hostile. I find that undoing the front button will let me access the pocket for billfold and flip phone. Not ideal but otherwise access fully buttoned is a test of patience that doesn't allow quick access. Otherwise, I'm quite happy with them.